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	<title>Comments on: One PR man’s sordid affair with Amanda Chapel</title>
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		<title>By: Exclusive interview with Strumpette co-creator Brian Connolly: Next week @ ToughSledding &#171; ToughSledding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exclusive interview with Strumpette co-creator Brian Connolly: Next week @ ToughSledding &#171; ToughSledding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sledzik lost his mind? Hardly. Longtime readers know that my defense of Strumpette in &#8216;07 cost me a good many &#8220;friendz&#8221; (Amanda&#8217;s word, not mine) in this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sledzik lost his mind? Hardly. Longtime readers know that my defense of Strumpette in &#8216;07 cost me a good many &#8220;friendz&#8221; (Amanda&#8217;s word, not mine) in this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cult of the Amatuer? Blame Steve Jobs &#171; ToughSledding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cult of the Amatuer? Blame Steve Jobs &#171; ToughSledding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote this line in October of &#8216;07: &#8220;I find myself marooned between the “Cult” and “Cluetrain” camps. And it works for me.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote this line in October of &#8216;07: &#8220;I find myself marooned between the “Cult” and “Cluetrain” camps. And it works for me.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Sledzik</title>
		<link>http://toughsledding.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/one-pr-man%e2%80%99s-sordid-affair-with-amanda-chapel/#comment-11305</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Sledzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Jeremy.  Thanks for stopping by.  Though we always tell our clients not to answer the hypothetical, that&#039;s a fair question.  

I&#039;d react in one of two ways.  First, I could take the stage along with the writer and wrestle with her, which many folks did.  That&#039;s a bit like wrestling with the Masked Marvel (I&#039;m showing my age).  You know he&#039;s gonna cheat and maybe do a little eye gouging.  But you know what you&#039;re getting into, and that&#039;s OK, since you also know wrestling isn&#039;t real.  

Second choice is to accept the fact that it&#039;s all staged and choose not to play the game. Some folks went that route -- Richard Edelman comes to mind. 

I never wrestled with Amanda on her blog, but did have my disagreements with her on this site and on Facebook.  I had fun with it, and so did my readers, who looked forward to visits by  Amanda and those who debated her.  No harm done.  It was comic relief in a very serious world -- at least at this site.

I saw Amanda as a reincarnation of P.T. Barnum.  Like Phineas, she sometimes went too far, but our willing suspension of disbelief kept us all coming to the circus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jeremy.  Thanks for stopping by.  Though we always tell our clients not to answer the hypothetical, that&#8217;s a fair question.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d react in one of two ways.  First, I could take the stage along with the writer and wrestle with her, which many folks did.  That&#8217;s a bit like wrestling with the Masked Marvel (I&#8217;m showing my age).  You know he&#8217;s gonna cheat and maybe do a little eye gouging.  But you know what you&#8217;re getting into, and that&#8217;s OK, since you also know wrestling isn&#8217;t real.  </p>
<p>Second choice is to accept the fact that it&#8217;s all staged and choose not to play the game. Some folks went that route &#8212; Richard Edelman comes to mind. </p>
<p>I never wrestled with Amanda on her blog, but did have my disagreements with her on this site and on Facebook.  I had fun with it, and so did my readers, who looked forward to visits by  Amanda and those who debated her.  No harm done.  It was comic relief in a very serious world &#8212; at least at this site.</p>
<p>I saw Amanda as a reincarnation of P.T. Barnum.  Like Phineas, she sometimes went too far, but our willing suspension of disbelief kept us all coming to the circus.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pepper</title>
		<link>http://toughsledding.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/one-pr-man%e2%80%99s-sordid-affair-with-amanda-chapel/#comment-11292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a hypothetical question for you ... if you were at the other end of one of the posts, how would you feel and react?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a hypothetical question for you &#8230; if you were at the other end of one of the posts, how would you feel and react?</p>
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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s Put Relations Back into PR &#187; The Buzz Bin</title>
		<link>http://toughsledding.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/one-pr-man%e2%80%99s-sordid-affair-with-amanda-chapel/#comment-11265</link>
		<dc:creator>Let&#8217;s Put Relations Back into PR &#187; The Buzz Bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] example, one of my character defects is a short temper that causes me to get into it with folks sometimes. This is particularly bad when I am dealing with the gemeyn shmegeges at Strumpette. But [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] example, one of my character defects is a short temper that causes me to get into it with folks sometimes. This is particularly bad when I am dealing with the gemeyn shmegeges at Strumpette. But [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Sledzik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Sledzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vaspers,

I don&#039;t think we&#039;re as far apart as it may seem, Vaspers.  And I like that you have a sense of humor about all this.  Some of us have to, eh?  I certainly agree with this part of your comment:

&quot;My pursuit of Brian Connolly and his unfortunate Cluetrain player haters is to show people that the Amanda Chapel Hoax flamers:

1. Cannot harm anybody&quot;

And as you point out, the death threats are harmless, too, if in fact they came from the Strumpette folks at all. It&#039;s a lot like when my wife says: If you open another beer, I&#039;m gonna kill you.  And I do it anyway, of course.

I won&#039;t get into the Cluetrain thing. I once met and had a chance to talk briefly with David Weinberger and I hold him in the highest esteem.  (Even have a signed copy of &quot;Everything is Miscellaneous.&quot;)  But criticism of the social media movement should not be treated as heresy.  I got a lot from Andrew Keen&#039;s little rant, and the most critical of his points is that we need the MSM to protect democracy.  We need paid, trained purveyors of truth (aka, real journalists -- not just &quot;citizen&quot; journalists) who know how to critically vet information.  

You&#039;re all right, man.  Hope to see you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vaspers,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re as far apart as it may seem, Vaspers.  And I like that you have a sense of humor about all this.  Some of us have to, eh?  I certainly agree with this part of your comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;My pursuit of Brian Connolly and his unfortunate Cluetrain player haters is to show people that the Amanda Chapel Hoax flamers:</p>
<p>1. Cannot harm anybody&#8221;</p>
<p>And as you point out, the death threats are harmless, too, if in fact they came from the Strumpette folks at all. It&#8217;s a lot like when my wife says: If you open another beer, I&#8217;m gonna kill you.  And I do it anyway, of course.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t get into the Cluetrain thing. I once met and had a chance to talk briefly with David Weinberger and I hold him in the highest esteem.  (Even have a signed copy of &#8220;Everything is Miscellaneous.&#8221;)  But criticism of the social media movement should not be treated as heresy.  I got a lot from Andrew Keen&#8217;s little rant, and the most critical of his points is that we need the MSM to protect democracy.  We need paid, trained purveyors of truth (aka, real journalists &#8212; not just &#8220;citizen&#8221; journalists) who know how to critically vet information.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re all right, man.  Hope to see you again.</p>
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		<title>By: vaspers aka steven e. streight</title>
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		<dc:creator>vaspers aka steven e. streight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. My pursuit of Brian Connolly and his unfortunate Cluetrain player haters is to show people that the Amanda Chapel Hoax flamers:

1. Cannot harm anybody
2. Cannot debate
3. Cannot silence their opponents
4. Are not to be taken seriously on any level
5. Are actually comedians with lots of time on their hands</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. My pursuit of Brian Connolly and his unfortunate Cluetrain player haters is to show people that the Amanda Chapel Hoax flamers:</p>
<p>1. Cannot harm anybody<br />
2. Cannot debate<br />
3. Cannot silence their opponents<br />
4. Are not to be taken seriously on any level<br />
5. Are actually comedians with lots of time on their hands</p>
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		<title>By: vaspers aka steven e. streight</title>
		<link>http://toughsledding.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/one-pr-man%e2%80%99s-sordid-affair-with-amanda-chapel/#comment-11152</link>
		<dc:creator>vaspers aka steven e. streight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill. The death threat was silly and childish, so I didn&#039;t call the cops.

If you think the Amanda Hoax losers are mature, professional, and worthy of studying, check out these Twitter pages of their troll tweets:

http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=14
http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=10
http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=11
http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=12

I confronted their advocacy of Oligarchy (rule by the few, like Korporate Amerikkka CEOs in love with China and North American Union), and their hatred of Democracy, Of the People, By the People, For the People, which they dismiss as &quot;populism&quot;.

I don&#039;t mind being called names, or trolls using the F bomb constantly. But I don&#039;t think they&#039;ll gain or retain many &quot;clients&quot; (if any ever existed for them) that way.

Hiding behind a North Korean female avatar is the funniest thing about these soup kitchen bums pretending to have something to say about their betters, i.e., successful PR professionals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill. The death threat was silly and childish, so I didn&#8217;t call the cops.</p>
<p>If you think the Amanda Hoax losers are mature, professional, and worthy of studying, check out these Twitter pages of their troll tweets:</p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=14" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=14</a><br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=10" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=10</a><br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=11" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=11</a><br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=12" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/amandachapel?page=12</a></p>
<p>I confronted their advocacy of Oligarchy (rule by the few, like Korporate Amerikkka CEOs in love with China and North American Union), and their hatred of Democracy, Of the People, By the People, For the People, which they dismiss as &#8220;populism&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind being called names, or trolls using the F bomb constantly. But I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll gain or retain many &#8220;clients&#8221; (if any ever existed for them) that way.</p>
<p>Hiding behind a North Korean female avatar is the funniest thing about these soup kitchen bums pretending to have something to say about their betters, i.e., successful PR professionals.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Sledzik</title>
		<link>http://toughsledding.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/one-pr-man%e2%80%99s-sordid-affair-with-amanda-chapel/#comment-11150</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Sledzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  I&#039;ll just let that one speak for itself, just as my case does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  I&#8217;ll just let that one speak for itself, just as my case does.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Livingston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Livingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I call it like I see it, too.  A supposedly ethical PR professor who supports cursing, and the use of false identity to call people&#039;s wives, their employers, and shut down people&#039;s businesses is a troll.  I can see why you like Amanda/Brian so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I call it like I see it, too.  A supposedly ethical PR professor who supports cursing, and the use of false identity to call people&#8217;s wives, their employers, and shut down people&#8217;s businesses is a troll.  I can see why you like Amanda/Brian so much.</p>
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